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Is warp kitpvp good or bad?

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  1. Ufti_
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    I think despite all of the new things in this reset, the most surprising one was the /warp KitPvP. With this update, more started pvping and also staff had more opportunities to catch hackers. Despite all benefits, I think staff need to considier the disadvantages of this mod. First of now no one uses warp ffa, by adding kitpvp in my opinion staff destroyed warp ffa. Why would someone 1v1 in ffa instead of 1v1ning in kitpvp. You have nothing to lose there also you can just learn who is better. When there is nothing to lose or win, it means there is no excitement. The fights were used to be more intense, you could not leave the server, you have to fight for your stuff, but right now if you definitely know that you will die, you can just put your armor off. Also the people you killed can also comeback with same stuff over and over again which is I think not really fun after sometime. In conclusion, warp kitpvp destroyed ffa and wild, and there is no excitement anymore in BeastFactions...

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    I disagree, Kitpvp got a lot of non pvpers to pvp, people that wouldn't do it before. I think this added excitement because now their are a lot more people to pvp with. If we didn't add warp kitpvp, nobody would be pvping right now because most people don't have enough gear. If we didn't have a warp kitpvp, for a while after the reset nobody would pvp, and I know a lot of people that play on beast mainly for pvp. Kitpvp has definentaly been a controversial decision, but things are still being tweaked. In the suggestions tab go check out other peoples suggestions. We are most likely taking out bows and food and instantly applying armor, this gives more pot slots. There is also some talk about a gapple arena (I don't know if it will happen). There is still more planned for kitpvp, and we have our reasoning behind it. Yes, people may not pvp at ffa as much anymore, but more pvp is going on now. I doubt it will get taken away because a lot of people like it.
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    You say more pvp but there is no value of winning anymore? The ones with no "good" gear could get some good stuff in pvp for example me and emirerem(when he didnt use any client xD), the one who pvped better clearly seen. Also the people with "no" gear can beat people with no gear. So they can get better. The warp kitpvp might got a lot of nonpvpers but also lost a lot of pvpers dont forget it...
     
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    I dont really understand your point. At warp kitpvp it is a lot easier to see who is better because you are pvping with the same stuff. It is also good for the people with no gear because they can get better at warp kitpvp. I think you are hurting your own argument. Warp kitpvp is also really good for catching hackers.
     
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    I said that u can see who is better in warp kitpvp but in my opinion seeing is not important, showing ur skills is more important, by that the one with better pvp skills can get the one with better gear so there is a meaning of ur pvp skills. You earn things by ur skill, not by your gear. Btw when I say "get better" i mean get better stuff... I dont hurt my argument just u cant support ur argument in a factions server.
     
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    The point is people could earn stuff from the people with better gear using their pvp skills. There is the excitement of Factions server, i think u guys keep forgetting that this is a factions server...
     
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    this is the excitement*
     
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    This is a factions server - not a kitmap server.

    You guys won't even dare to enter an actual warzone - for one reason.
    Because you don't want to lose your gear.
     
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    I have to say I agree with Ufti and nick on this one, factions is made up of pvp, economy, and raiding. Yes we are getting loads more pvp but what is the point in ranks anymore for gear? I dont pvp very much myself but can understand it from people who usually do.
    If you look at it from the perspective of people who dont pvp a lot, it is amazing, they have chance to practice their pvp without losing gear, great!
    If you look at it from the point of view of people who usually pvp, it has ruined a lot of things, there is no need to spend money making gear anymore, because it is not needed, there is no need to build huge bases and vaults to store gear because we dont need any, and this screws with the economy in my opinion. All people seem to be doing at the moment is 2 things, pvping in kitpvp or grinding to make money and get richer. every now and then someone tries to raid, but there is no grinding fear anymore. A great thing about factions was that part of the ecconomy was how much gear you owned, and you would get more by pvping people with your gear on. it was a risk and something just as important as the money aspect of the econmy and I feel that now this has gone.
    As someone who doesnt really pvp much anyway other than to trol with my bow, I would like to know what some of the main pvpers of the server thingk about kitpvp
     
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    But that was the case before - you used to whine because nobody PvP'd - now you whine that everyone does, but you can't grind the gear?

    Shall we just go back to having no PvP?
     
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    I like kit pvp but we need the kit to be changed look at my post Ufti the kit in the screenshot is the kit we should have its more like a kit that you would have on a kit server, we should keep the warp for new players no matter if you don't like it to be completely honest I used to ask you for a 1v1 and you wouldn't unless it was in kit pvp so think about it...
     
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    It is not only about 1v1.I mean that there is no value anymore. And there is no difference between 1v1ning in warp kitpvp and no pvp. If there were no kitpvp and u asked me for 1v1 I would most of the time say no.The kit is not the problem, the problem is there is nothing to fight for anymore...
     
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    But warp kitpvp is not the solution dude? Coz u changed the logic of pvp...
     
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    Yes we can go back to no pvp because we are not a KITMAP server. I also don't want people to use p4 as a bragging right anymore instead of using it as what it actually is.! Gear! You keep Kitpvp, might as well bury your p4 and blow it up once the reset comes.

    For those wondering what a kitmap server is, look one up and see for yourself. You literally right click a sign and go out and kill people.
     
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    Nicks issue is he likes to PvP people (for fun) to take their gear and get rich on P4... factions is about raiding/killing people and taking their gear, not asking them for a 1v1 or to PvP at ffa.
     
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    you are actually right but there is not only nick pvping on this server there are a lot of people who wants to get better stuff by using their pvp skills. but it is impossile right now...
     
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    It's not......you just have to find a faction online and raid them...
     
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    can u tell me how are you going to raid them without gear, speaking of a "good" faction that would defense their base-
     
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    You make gear, you enchant it, you grind xp and diamonds then you can go out and raid for more gear, go back to the root of factions where things aren't handed to you on a silver platter just because you can easily kill someone and steal their gear.
    You are a warlord save your kits, or actually work for your gear instead of waiting for us to change something that most people enjoy just so you can go out and get easy kills and easy gear. I honestly don't see the fun in everything being easy.
     
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    I agree, there is no pvp outside kitpvp anymore so might as well take the warps out? You're right, it's factions and there should be a use for p4 right now. But there isn't. Overlord+ ranks get p4 every 2 days and they store it in their base, and brag about how much they have when they never use it. Factions is for pvp and most people like it where u use your own gear, not a kit for a dollar. If you don't want to lose gear, then don't 1v1. Buy right now beast is a kit pvp map mixed with like towny
     
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