- = My Opinion On Our Current Staff = -

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Should there be new/different staff and new staff ranks?

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    Back to this, real world problems I can see, if you notify staff, infact caring for family is way more important than a dang game. Other problems, just shouldn't happen, internet, and you cant be on much at all? they can't fix it so they shouldn't even beable to come on and be staff. If they are still nice and caring and when they get on they are one of the bests, then I understand. But not all of it is like this.
     
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    If you're referring to BF 9.0 you can expect problems and things to not be as good, since ownership was switched mid reset.
     
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    True. But "if Phil can handle it" then why is such a big deal anyways?
     
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    Phil does an amazing job, if you think about it, Beast wouldn't exist anymore if it wasn't for Phil. Tom left beast, he was just going to let it die off.. In all Phil has to fix mistakes previous staff members made when making BF 9.0.
     
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    We have a real life, too. Many people have mental issues, physical issues, or issues with family or other personal things. They don't bring it into game, but sometimes you just have to be understanding. Things will get better, and because that staff member is watching out and caring for the server, is it not our duty to do the same and care for them because you are their friend? Think of it this way- you are having family problems. Don't you want your friends to be there for you, because you've always been there for them? Or do you want that to all be stripped away and you having to deal with your loss of friends and family problems?
    Everyone has a flaw. The way you talk is that the staff are perfect and become imperfect, therefore should not be able to become staff. We are not to judge for something that the person could not control. It's like your grandfather dying, as Kat said; you can't control death. But you can do the best to control your own life. You can't bring your grandfather back to life, of course. But should you be stripped of your title as staff when all you have done is help and earn the rank that you have?
     
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    my opinion, there should be no staff
     
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    That's like saying there should be no government, no rules, no laws.
    That would just be chaos :p
     
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    stfu u ruined the server
     
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    idc if i don't get unbanned
    im realizing that this server is complete bs
    i hope you get demoted miner
     
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    i hope phil closes the server and these idiots start playing a server that is REAL and has GOOD staff members and a FAIR owner who doesn't just take kids money
     
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    Like I stated above, Tom left the server to die he was ready to shut it down, Phil and the rest of the staff team have stopped that from happening for beast to continue on.
     
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    and also keep in mind Phil doesnt pocket any of the donations it all goes towards the server.
     
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    tom got sick and tired of these idiots playing, he realized that his server was pathetic
    why would he quit if his server was successful? because it wasn't, phil should have realized that when he bought it from tom
     
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    and if we arent real, then why are you sitll lingering?
     
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    thats complete BS kitty
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't really feel as if you should be telling us how to do our jobs / who isn't doing their job well - that is for higher staff (Phil) to determine and to handle.

    If there was a problem with someone, wouldn't Phil have addressed it already? :p

    Rygar, server bashing won't help you get unbanned. I would be careful with how far you go with insulting us, for you may get forum banned - even if you say you won't be back, you will come back to visit someday. ;)

     
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    I think ALL staff does amazing really and not many improvements could be done. Sure there are problems here and there but they all can be fixed. Staff being "rude" is all on how someone reads the msg really. Many problems can occur in ones life like death of a loved one that can hurt someone and they wouldn't want to play BF or MC, I can't see a problem there really, wouldn't you feel the same? In the end I don't think these opinions should be expressed so highly, sure they are good and all but there has to be a line really. I think all staff are doing good. <3 Btw Phil is the best owner (plus all of staff like these people, they are completely amazing and we couldn't get anyone else like them <3) and it is hard having to run a server mid reset. Btw he isn't taking money for personal things he is having it all go to the server. Really BubbyStank I think you are a cool dude, just somethings should be kept to themselves.
    Rygar, that is really rude of you to say that btw and I think you should keep that to yourself.

    Just know this all of staff is here to help everyone and have it all be fun, you can't expect them to be angles all of the time everyone slips up and we all have our fair share.

    In the end I think this topic should be left alone, it is just an opinion and if you don't like how we do things than why stay?

    Thank you for reading, sorry if some of this didn't make sense I am currently sleep deprived, hungry, and have a bad headache so yeah...Rip, darn wrestling.

    ~SmexyCress
     
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    My turn
    Now you see from my time on beast I Have come full circle, climbing my way up to admin and now have gone back to Helper so I know what it takes for the server to be running, and for each staff role to do their job. First off of course the helpers are the most active, there are more of them for starters and their main role is in chat, so you will end up seeing them a lot as they dont really tend to get jobs behind the scenes. We make it our job to be the face of the staff team and to be the active ones. obviously some are more active than others as some have more time to spare than others, we have a minum ontime that we stick to and we usually tend to unless other things occur. Moderator of course has a similar role so again you would see them quite a bit, however they are trying to guide helpers to do the right thing and take more serious actions when needed but you didnt seem to have a problem with those either.

    Now for your comments about Phil not being active let me tell you that there is a lot more to the server than what you see. In my job I might not see my manager for a very long time as he will be away at meetings and things like that, But he will be the one making all the calls getting all the orders filing organising etc. Just because I dont see that doesnt mean it isnt happening. during my time as admin I saw the vast amount of work needed to keep this server going and it is time consuming. When something comes up where logs are needed to be looked through for evidence that can take hours at best sifting through the jumble, imagine having to read through days and days of server chat commands etc. Then there is fixing bugs and glitches with the server that people report, looking for new staff, giving final calls on bans or ban appeals, looking for hackers glitches or other things while in /v. The amount of time and effort Phil and the admins put into the server is immense and far more than you could possibly comprehend. The reason we have different levels of staff rank is so that while phil is doing all of this hard work behind the scenes we can take care of things on the server like chat and hackers, we can be active and be there to help people. Then when the admins get a moments break from what they are doing them and phil will come on to check how things are going, to check that we are doing our job of being active and effective and will tell us otherwise if we are not and then they will get back to sorting out the things we are not able to do. Unfortunately that is how any buisness works and although this is a rather informal one it is still a buisness, when was the last time you saw the ceo of McDonnalds serve you hey??

    In regards to your "having real world problems is not acceptable" remember that every single staff member is a volunteer giving up their time to deal with snot nosed kids that find it funny to make our jobs harder. We are loyal to our staff and if we just got rid of every staff member that needed to take some time off then no one would ever want to be staff member. What if you go on holiday for a week or two or have exams coming up, hec you might not come on minecraft during that time do you expect them to. and I know they are staff and its thier job to be active but at the end of the day, this is a server full of children and a handful of adults, myself included, give them a bloody break everything they do on the server is for they players, kids giving up their time to try and make the game you play on enjoyable and you say its not fair if they have real world problems?? I for one appreciate every seccond a staff member gives to this server and feel that you should not try to critisise what you dont understand.


    For those of you who read this sorry for it being so long and thank you
     
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    I agree, phil is probs busy working on bf10
     
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    Real world problems are things everyone has to deal with, saying it is not acceptable is a little rude if I may be honest. They do not bring it into the game, which is the exact reason they may sometimes be a little inactive, they do this to keep it out of the game as much as possible. I have no idea how old you are, but when the time comes that you have a job, I hope your opinion has changed.
    It is basically the same thing, I go to work every day, but when something comes in the way, let's say I become sick, or something happened to my family, then I will choose them over my work. Should I be fired then because I chose my family over work? Even if I have notified my boss about the issue?


    I share opinion in most of this post, however there are a few things I'd like to adress. I don't feel like helpers are doing the best job, from what I see, which is probably more accurate than what you see, I understand, every staff member is doing their job as they should.
    Some may not be as active from time to time, just so they can clear their heads before they return to doing their job to the best of their abilities.

    What I wanted to say is; Helpers seem to do a better job, because their job is to be active in chat and deal with any potential problems occuring in chat. A Moderators job is not much different actually, it stands for moderating chat. Head-Mod and above are trying their best to find potential hackers that go
    under the radar, or assist Phil in getting everything set up perfectly for the upcoming reset. They try their hardest to keep the server bug free, which I can tell you is a very hard task.

    It is true that everyone has flaws, and everyone can improve on something. It's nice to see that you're trying to let them improve, what I would suggest to you is to try and keep a positive attitude overall when you are trying to make someone improve as a person, member of staff. Currently when I, or others read your post, it gives sort of a very negative buzz. It looks as if though we are doing a horrible job, apart from some of us and apart from some things.
    Try giving some more specific examples of where we as a team could improve.


    Wanted to adress this once more, resigning because one has to take a few days off is.. Insane, to say the least. Replacing someone who is going to a tough time just because they haven't been active the last few days is flatout rude.

    Coleman had issues with his internet, he has resigned because of that, I honestly have no idea where you are coming from. Everything else, from what I know, is due to a staff member going to a tough time.

    Thank you for reading through till the end.
     
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